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2009 West Coast Conference Basketball Standings
Pomeroy rank: 12
Through games of Friday, January 9


                        Overall  Conf
                          W-L     W-L    Pomeroy/Rnk      AdjO/Rnk   AdjD/Rnk      SOS/Rnk   NCSOS/Rnk

San Diego                 9-7     1-0      .6283/115     99.5/188  95.1/72     .6594/42    .6666/62 
Santa Clara               7-10    0-1      .6036/125     99.8/182  96.2/92     .6466/53    .6214/83 


   
Santa Clara
Pomeroy Rank: 125
Record: 7-10
Conference: West Coast Conference

Scouting Report Game Plan

Date Result Site Record Conf Prediction*

Sun Jan 11 (125) Santa Clara vs. (115) San Diego (sr) Home 7-10 0-1 W, 60-57[61] (63%)

Projected record** 16-15 8-6

*Predictions include predicted pace in [brackets] and chance of winning in (parentheses)

**Projected record is based on chances of winning, and therefore may not conform to the
cumulative game-by-game predictions. This accounts for the unexpected results that
will inevitably happen during the season.

and from The Sports Network ...

Santa Clara Broncos

1/11 2:00 PM PT	1	Score
San Diego	W-L: 9-7	0
Santa Clara	W-L: 7-10	0
Preview \| Lineup \| Wrap \| Box

Santa Clara vs		San Diego
Points	64.7	60.7	Pts Against
Assists	13.2	10.3	Ast Against
Rebounds	34.2	31.2	Reb Against
Steals	6.1	7.3	Stl Against
Blocked Shots	5.1	3.3	Blk Against
FG%	.459	.410	FG% Against
3P%	.355	.330	3P% Against
FT%	.713	.711	FT% Against
Inverse Matchup
San Diego at		Santa Clara
Points	64.2	63.2	Pts Against
Assists	12.6	10.9	Ast Against
Rebounds	32.4	29.6	Reb Against
Steals	6.1	7.5	Stl Against
Blocked Shots	3.3	2.6	Blk Against
FG%	.463	.414	FG% Against
3P%	.362	.354	3P% Against
FT%	.727	.691	FT% Against
Inverse Matchup

SCU Team Leaders
Points	J. Bryant	17.4
Assists	P. Petty	3.8
Rebounds	J. Bryant	12.2
Steals	P. Petty	1.5
Blocked Shots	J. Bryant	2.6
FG%	M. Trasolini	.646
3P%	K. Foster	.413
FT%	S. Thompson	1.000
USD Team Leaders
Points	T. Johnson	16.8
Assists	B. Johnson	3.6
Rebounds	G. Pomare	6.7
Steals	T. Johnson	2.5
Blocked Shots	G. Pomare	1.1
FG%	C. Houston	1.000
3P%	T. Johnson	.538
FT%	. Brown	1.000

from statsheet.com

PPG FG% FT% 3P% RPG ORPG DRPG APG TPG SPG BPG FPG

USD 64.2 46.3 73.0 36.2 35.3 9.4 23.0 12.6 14.5 6.1 3.3 18.4

SCL 64.7 45.9 71.3 35.5 36.5 9.9 24.4 13.2 16.4 6.1 5.1 18.4

USD Opponents 60.7 41.0 71.1 33.0 32.9 9.9 20.7 10.3 15.1 7.3 3.3 17.4

SCL Opponents 63.2 41.4 69.1 35.4 31.4 9.5 20.2 10.9 13.1 7.5 2.6 17.3

PTS FGM FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA REB OR DR AST TO STL BLK PF DQs TF E

USD 1027 383 827 181 248 80 221 564 151 368 201 232 97 53 295 3 0 0

SCL 1100 399 869 209 293 93 262 620 168 414 225 279 104 87 312 4 1 0

USD Opponents 971 333 812 212 298 93 282 527 158 331 165 241 117 53 278 6 1 0

SCL Opponents 1075 365 882 242 350 103 291 534 161 343 185 223 127 44 294 4 0 0

POS PPG PPP FLR% Eff eFG% TS% FTR 2P% FTP% 3P% OR% DR% A% A/T T% S% B%

USD 1031.0 64.4 1.0 50.4 99.6 51.1 54.4 30.0 59.0 17.6 23.4 31.3 70.0 52.5 0.9 22.5 9.4 6.5

SCL 1114.0 65.5 0.99 49.4 98.7 51.3 54.6 33.7 55.6 19.0 25.4 32.9 72.0 56.4 0.8 25.0 9.3 9.9

USD Opponents 1031.0 64.4 0.94 46.6 94.2 46.7 50.9 36.7 49.4 21.8 28.7 30.0 68.7 49.5 0.7 23.4 11.3 6.4

SCL Opponents 1114.0 65.5 0.96 47.6 96.5 47.2 51.3 39.7 48.7 22.5 28.7 28.0 67.1 50.7 0.8 20.0 11.4 5.1

Rank and Records USD
SCL

RPI #93
#188

Strength of Schedule #59
#99

Overall 9-7
7-10

Conference 1-0
0-1

Home 4-3
5-1

Away 3-2
2-6

Top 25 0-2
0-0

RPI Top 50 0-4
0-2

Latest Point Spreads

Bookmaker SCL Odds USD Odds Spread Last Updated

5 Dimes 1.909 1.909 -1.5 Jan 11 01:41 AM ET

BETCRIS 1.909 1.909 -1.0 Jan 11 01:32 AM ET

WSEX 1.909 1.909 -1.5 Jan 11 01:14 AM ET

Matchbook 1.893 1.99 -1.0 Jan 10 11:57 PM ET

Bet 365 1.9 1.9 -1.0 Jan 10 09:04 PM ET

PinnacleSports 1.909 2.0 -1.0 Jan 10 05:58 PM ET

Complete Point Spread History

A negative number in the spread column indicates the number of points the home team (Santa Clara) is projected to win by. A postive number indicates the number of points the visiting team (San Diego) is projected to win by.

Last Edited By: bronco66 01/11/09 03:05:31. Edited 1 time.

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1stRodeo

Watch game online

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01/11/09 10:37:53

It looks like the game is on channelsurfing.net
Scoll down to:


	NCAA Basketball - San Diego at Santa Clara 5:00PM EST 1/11

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bronco66

Sports Network Preview

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01/11/09 12:29:06

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2:00 PM PT 1 2 Score

San Diego 9-7 0

Santa Clara 7-10 0

Preview | Lineup | Wrap | Box

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San Diego (9-7) at Santa Clara (7-10)

The Sports Network

DATE & TIME: Sunday, January 11th, 5:00 p.m. (et)

FACTS & STATS:

Site: Leavey Center (5,000) -- Santa Clara, California.

Television: Local.

Home Record: San Diego 4-3, SCU 5-1.

Away Record: San Diego 3-2, SCU 2-6.

Neutral Record: San Diego 2-2, SCU 0-3.

Conference Record: San Diego 1-0, SCU 0-1.

Series Record: Santa Clara leads, 34-28.

GAME NOTES: The San Diego Toreros will try to continue their recent surge this evening, as they square off against the Santa Clara Broncos in West Coast Conference play at the Leavey Center. The Toreros enter the tilt on a roll, as they have won three straight and five of their last six games following a 4-6 start to the season. Most recently, the team opened its WCC schedule with a 65-50 victory at San Francisco on Friday. San Diego, which won the WCC Tournament last season, improved to 3-2 on the road with the victory. As for SCU, it has dropped several close games this season and that was the case in its WCC opener, falling in the final moments at Saint Mary's, 63-62, on Friday. It was the second straight loss and third in four games by Broncos, who dipped to 7-10 overall. The team though, now returns back home, where it has gone 5-1, including two straight wins. SCU also leads the all-time series with San Diego, 34-28, although the Toreros won both meetings last season.

The Toreros shot a sizzling 57.8 percent from the field, including an 8-fo-16 effort from long range, as they raced past San Francisco on Friday. The team also won the battle on the boards by a 30-21 margin. Trumaine Johnson matched his career-high with 22 points and he also dished out six assists to lead San Diego. Gyno Pomare registered a double-double with 11 points and 10 rebounds, while Rob Jones had 10 points and eight boards. Johnson, in four games this season, is averaging 16.8 ppg for the Toreros and shooting 55.6 percent from the floor. Pomare adds 14.3 ppg and a team-best 6.7 rpg to the rotation, while Jones contributes 10.6 ppg and 5.7 rpg. Overall, San Diego is netting 64.2 ppg and limiting foes to 60.7 ppg on the season.

Patrick Mills hit a three-pointer with 2.6 seconds left, sending the Broncos to a heart-breaking 63-62 loss on Friday. Freshman Kevin Foster gave SCU the lead on a three-pointer with 12 seconds remaining, but it was unable to survive Mills and company in the setback. Foster, though, had a career night, finishing with 31 points on 11-of-19 field goals and 5-of-9 three-pointers. John Bryant added eight points and nine boards, to go with five blocks and three steals. On the season, Bryant is averaging a double-double with team highs of 17.4 ppg and 12.1 rpg and he has also posted 45 blocks. Foster is next in line at 13.7 ppg and she is shooting 41.3 percent from long distance. As a team, SCU is scoring 64.7 ppg and outrebounding opponents by 4.6 rpg.

Despite their losing record, the Broncos have been rather competitive all season long and they should be able to continue their solid play with a win this evening.

Sports Network Predicted Outcome: Santa Clara 66, San Diego 62

01/11 10:21:56 ET

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01/11/09 19:00:21

Report from somebody who was there? I can see the box score, but I want details.

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gobroncs

report

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01/11/09 22:01:40

We outplayed them. Neither team shot great but D was good on both sides. Both teams scored more inside.

Key play was weird. With 50 secs to go their PG mugs Petty and Petty kind of swings an arm at him, half in self defense. They called the foul but also a T on Perry. Too bad because the kid is not a hot head. Each team got made 2 free throws but USD got the ball and then scored and won the game. It sucked. Good crowd. Fun game though low scoring.

Petty has really improved. 2 strong games now in conference. He does run the team well now. Still makes a few too many turnovers but makes up for it with active D and drives to the hoop and good shots and passes. Nice to see the kid turn it around so much.

Keating sure does ride the guys hard. None of them look like they are having much fun especially Keating himself. Dude would help himself, his team and his program to be more positive to his kids in public. In the first half, each time someone made a mistake he'd pull them out and a lot of them looked frustrated. Plus it leads to too fast rotations and non-tactical rotations as he doesn't deal with what the opponent is doing. In fairness he didn't seem hard on Bryant or Petty or CJ but for sure was on the younger kids. It's just a game KK.

I think there's a good chance we could be pretty good next year. Bryant will be a big loss but we will be able to play MUCH faster as a team. Petty is improved and Foster, Rahon and Traz all look good. Santos has finally stopped starting and to his credit is performing the role of back up emergency PG quite admirably.

I thought we've looked damn good in conference so far despite being O-2.

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jcardoza77

Next Year

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gobroncs, I share your optomism about next season (I'm more sanquine about K2 year 4, tho'), assuming we see contribution from the next class, as well as further development from the frosh and Petty. My hope is that Smith and Alexander can handle the primary point duties, and P2 can act as more of a 2 guard who can initiate the offense but is primarily a scorer. Seven TOs is just too many. Losing Bryant is huge of course, but when I watched Belmont and the video feed from NH, the ball seemd to move more easily when the big guy was on the bench. Don't misunderstand me: I love Bryant's game, effort and presence on the court. I'm merely saying that the offense might flow more smoothly next year, as long as Traz, Thompson, Cunningham, and Harrison et al. can provide some sort of interior presence. DWhite picking up his game and giving SCU a viable 3 man would help, too. Maybe he will be more able to contribute as the season progresses as BroncoBeliever suggested.

I also have to agree that K2 is one intense fellow on the sideline. When I attend, I sit in section 114 in the end zone nearest the SCU bench; you can really see and hear how fired up he is and how he will shun or hammer the underclassmen when they err. On the other hand, I've been to one practice each of the last 2 years for the coaches' clinic. Keating has definntely toned down his approach there: still intense, but less impatient. I suspect and hope there is a learning curve for him to level as well as the young players. The team plays hard for him, which with its youth is another reason not to toss this season in the trash heap yet. What we need to see is continued improvement and increased consistency from a young team that has some talent, but can drive a fan to distraction and another drink.

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Talking 'bout K2 Anger, Fury etc.-- USD Game story from the Merc

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01/12/09 07:21:27

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Coach furious over Santa Clara's loss

By Laurence Miedema

Mercury News

Posted: 01/11/2009 08:13:12 PM PST

Santa Clara Coach Kerry Keating couldn't contain his frustration after watching his team sleepwalk through a 55-50 loss to San Diego on Sunday at the Leavey Center.

"The most disappointed I've ever been since I've been the coach here,'' the second-year coach said. "I'm always disappointed when we lose, but I'm really disgusted right now because we handed them a game in our home gym because our effort was awful. Plain and simple. Period.''

The listless effort came 36 hours after the Broncos took conference heavyweight St. Mary's to the limit on the road, losing 63-62 on a buzzer-beating shot.

But other than center John Bryant, who scored 19 points and had 12 rebounds, the Broncos (7-11, 0-2 West Coast Conference) seemed uninspired. SCU committed 20 turnovers, didn't attempt a free throw in the first half, and the reserves failed to score. Kevin Foster, coming off 31 points against St. Mary's, scored four points.

Keating said he saw signs of the young team's lack of focus and aggressiveness during the morning shootaround, and it clearly carried into the game.

"It was like no one wanted to be there,'' Keating said. "That's just putrid.''

Bryant said, "We were struggling the whole game trying to get everybody to play hard. We're a good team. We just came out flat. I take responsibility, letting the freshmen mess around during the walk-through, going through the motions and not paying attention to details.''

Despite SCU's struggles, San Diego (10-7, 2-0) was even more inept offensively in the early going, allowing the Broncos to lurch to a 23-17 halftime lead. The advantage evaporated when the Broncos committed five turnovers and missed three of their first four field-goal attempts in the second half.

The biggest breakdowns came in the final minute. With SCU leading 48-47, San Diego's Trumaine Johnson fouled Perry Petty. The SCU point guard took offense to the hard foul and, while the two were tangled up, swung his elbow into the back of Johnson's head and was called for a technical foul.

Keating said, "We have to be smarter than that, especially in the last 40 seconds.''

The teams traded the subsequent free throws, with Petty's shots giving SCU a 50-49 edge with 38.7 seconds left. Johnson followed with a jumper that gave San Diego a 51-50 lead with 29.3 seconds left, but SCU didn't even attempt a shot in its final two possessions: Foster threw a pass away, and Bryant was called for traveling.

"We are lucky we didn't get beat by 30,'' Keating said. "I just can't believe we let an opportunity like this go.''

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01/12/09 09:30:03

Agree with KK. A huge opportunity pi++sd away at home. Hugely disappointing. We matched-up well, we seem to keep them off the boards. I was mostly impressed by the defensive effort, but the number of unforced turnovers are horrific. I was surprised Grier didn't put the press in place sooner.

That said, by my back-of-the envelope count, Broncos are 6-16 in two years in games decided by less than 5 points. So the loss in the waning seconds comes as no shock. Starting to get used to it.

On KK's intensity...he does have a quick trigger and I think it gets guys too fearful of making a mistake. So they become automoton's out there and treat the ball like a hot potato. Funny though, I remember when fans used to get on CW when he would pull a player for playing TOO well. Nothing would deflate the Toso bubble faster than the 5 words: "Let's give him a blow.."

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re: Next Year

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01/12/09 10:27:30

I was at the San Diego game and generally feel reasonably good about our team despite the loss. We could easily have won both games over the weekend mindful that we have three freshmen in our starting lineup. If we can get better play at the point from Petty and Alexander, we could make a good year-end run at our NCAA-qualifying league tournament.

I thought our first half defense was pretty stifling as reflected in San Diego scoring only 19 points. San Diego was able to open things up a bit in the second half as they move the ball really well. Offensively, we were a bit stagnant and unable to get good perimeter shots for Rahon and Foster. With Petty fighting a turnover battle, I think he was a bit reluctant to penetrate and then hit the open man. I sensed that KK pulling players after making a mistake may have made them a bit tentative. Still....we could easily have won this game. The technical foul call against Petty was a probable game decider and could have been ignored by the refs who alternately could have called Johnson for a flagrant foul. We were in a situation where (if we had a 3 point lead instead of a 1 point lead) the time clock would have mandated that San Diego foul and the game would have been decided at the free throw line. But all in all, we're just a few points away from having a overall winning record. With more time, I feel good that Trasolini, Foster, and Rahon will start to have more "break-out" games. I should think that we can also expect to see improvement at the point with Petty and Alexander (when healthy). There is help on the way. Here's the latest on Robert Smith by Joel Francisco at a southern California tournament one week ago:

Robert Smith (6-0, 170)
Senior, Perris, Calif.
Smith, headed to Santa Clara next season, was the top-rated point guard in the event, and he didn't disappoint with his 28-point, 12-assist performance. He has a very strong and stocky frame and he's blessed with that highly coveted second gear. He blows by most defenders in transition and is very good at getting to the rim despite heavy traffic. His handle is tight; he keeps it very low and has a skilled crossover. Smith can dominate at this level with his current talent and skill, but in order to carry that over to the next level there are a few areas which he needs to add polish, specifically his jump shot. He gets great lift on it, but it's still not as consistent as it needs to be. In addition, in transition it would be beneficial for him to come to a jump stop more often and nail the midrange jump shot, because there were numerous times when he forced the issue.

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gobroncs

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01/12/09 11:31:14

Those comments by Keating are way over the top. I was six rows from the court and never noticed any discernable lack of effort on our part.

jcardoza77, good post and thoughts. I might need a drink myself by the way!

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JustPlainSmith

Ummmm ....

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01/12/09 12:51:24

I think the point of Keating's comments was on the defensive end in the last 5-10 minutes of the game. Too many easy buckets by Jones, lackluster hustle by Petty getting back on defense after a turnover. Come to think of it, the stretch of offensive sequences when Petty was out of the game (lower body injury) was turnover, turnover, turnover was pretty offensive ...

But if he is disappointed with their effort, he needs to sit the offenders down, chop their minutes and let the guys who put forth the effort in practice on the court. May not win more games but it may build some fine young men ...

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01/12/09 14:17:19

Has Keating ever said, "I screwed up. I didn't get the kids prepared."? Maybe I just haven't seen it but all I've seen is him blaming the players for one reason or another.

He should take a cue from Roy Williams and many others like him who rarely will criticize their players publicly but will let them have it behind closed doors. I believe the players respect you more when it's done that way which in turn causes them to get more behind the coach.

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broncoman

Keatings Comments

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01/12/09 14:18:34

Obviously Keating knows what to expect out of his guys, and he probably felt that the effort was not up to their potential. It sounded like Bryant agreed with the lack of effort. Hopefully they can use this weekend as a learning experience moving forward.

However, this was a game they should have won. With the fact that the conference tournament seeding (not counting GU and SMC) is relatively open, losing this type of game is frustrating. I still feel that a top 4 finish (and a bye in the WCC tournament) is possible, however losing games like this does not help the cause.

Hopefully this team will blow a game open and get back on the right track. These close losses are tought to bear.

Go Broncos...

Also, is there going to be any trip, alumni gathering in Vegas for WCC tournament? Ill be there, I need to get out of the snow.

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NewAgeofBronco

I like KK's comments

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01/12/09 16:24:23

I like what KK had to say. After watching us lose so many winnable games (Arizona, SMC, and now USD) it is nice to hear someone get upset at how we are playing. I prefer KK's "over the top" emotions to what we have had in the past...which was no emotion. KK has the right to be angry and I think the players should be disappointed and angry as well.

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scu04

Keating's comments

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01/12/09 19:14:20

I think Keating's comments are fine as long as you do not call out individual players in the press (which I don't think he did).

Davey and Seandel used to talk about guy's terrible defense (see Steve Ross) all the time but not quite as eruptively.

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bbjunkie

KK Man-up!

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01/12/09 19:47:05

KK needs to man up and take accountability. Again he takes no blame for the loss and again blames the freshmen. We were up 23-17 at half. The freshmen had more than half the points at halftime (Rahon 7, Foster 4, Traz 2) and held the Toreros to 17. It wasn't the freshmen that started the second half with three consecutive turnovers (that was Petty). It isn't the freshmen that decided that Santos should play back-up point guard (that was KK and boy it is tough to watch). It isn't the freshmen that caused Dowdell and White to play a combined over 30 minutes with no points, 3 rebounds, 4 turnovers, and 7 fouls. It isn't the freshmen that called the last play to have Bryant catch the ball on the three point line. KK, Bryant can't shoot a three and fails consistently to pass the ball out of the post. It wasn't the freshmen that had the technical foul with 40 seconds remaining (Petty again).

What is disturbing is KK repeatedly blaming the freshmen for his inadequacy. What is more disturbing is that he now has Bryant publically calling out the freshmen. I am a Bryant fan but you do not call out your teammates. Shame on you John, you are better than KK. If John wants to blame someone, how about himself. Two WCC games and he is simply playing even at his position. Yeah Bryant, Pomare had 19 and 10 against you. Where is Bryant's defensive effort KK?

You must resolve yourself to these types of losses, I have. No team in the country has poorer point guard play than the Broncos. Petty and Santos are not D1 players and as long as they are even on the team, the results will not improve.

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bronco66

more of the story ...

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to partly address your comment ...

tripbill wrote:
Has Keating ever said, "I screwed up. I didn't get the kids prepared."? Maybe I just haven't seen it but all I've seen is him blaming the players for one reason or another.

bbjunkie wrote:
KK needs to man up and take accountability. Again he takes no blame for the loss and again blames the freshmen.

I would guess that not all of Coach Keating comment made the Merc's story ...

from another Source here is more of his Post Game Quotes (emphasis added)

Post Game Quotes

Santa Clara vs. San Diego Quotes

Jan. 11, 2009

Santa Clara Head Coach Keating

"I'm always disappointed when we lose but tonight I am extremely disappointed because we handed them a game in our own gym. There was no energy in the gym, and these guys need to know how to handle that. We won't win games if we don't play hard every play, every possession the entire game. I am not going to pull any punches with them, but this team has to have a better effort than the one we had today. I will take responsibility for it.

"This is the most disappointed I have ever been coaching here. I don't want to take away from San Diego's win because they are a good team and they played well, especially in the second half."

"The walk- through we had before the game was awful. That will never happen again under my watch. We are going to learn our lesson. And we had better be ready the next time we play."

It appears that the walk through was not very good. I would imagine that BIG John's comments were made at the same post game press conference as KK's and if as usual after the Coach had made his. In the context of KK's fuller comments John's make more sense to me.

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bronco66

and upon further review ...

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bbjunkie wrote:
KK needs to man up and take accountability. Again he takes no blame for the loss and again blames the freshmen.

What is disturbing is KK repeatedly blaming the freshmen for his inadequacy.

Not 100% sure Junkie ... but I did not find anywhere in the KK quotes where he singled out anyone or class. The only reference to freshmen did apparently come from Bryant

Bryant said, "We were struggling the whole game trying to get everybody to play hard. We're a good team. We just came out flat. I take responsibility, letting the freshmen mess around during the walk-through, going through the motions and not paying attention to details.''

and as a Senior leader I am sure he is learning about what a leader is and does ... kudos to him for stepping up and taking responsibility "messing around" in meetings effects everyone (at least that what I've found in 40+ years of meetings) and makes the limited time less productive ...

as for

bbjunkie wrote:
No team in the country has poorer point guard play than the Broncos. Petty and Santos are not D1 players and as long as they are even on the team, the results will not improve.

not sure where you are getting your data ... according to Ken Pomeroy's website ... P² has the 100th best Assist Rate and the 141st best Steal Pct. in the Country and his weakest areas are protecting the rock (TOs) ... yes a singificant area for improvement

and until Troy Alexander get back Santos gets 3rd backup minutes ... btw ... he is shooting 23-36 .639 from 2, his "True Shooting Pct." (61.2%) is third highest on the team and his Offensive Rating (86.3) not great but is higher than Decense's (74.5)

Yikes .... seems someone posted here

bbjunkie wrote:
you do not call out your teammates.

better realization as to what they can "get away" with will help everyone on the team ... and my money says they will improve ... and the games we "must win" are those in Vegas ... and that's almost a season of seasoning away

GO BRONCOS

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KK and the PG

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01/13/09 19:45:48

Bronco66, lets not split hairs. KK says that the young team is screwing around and Bryant follows that it was the freshmen, there is no doubt who KK was talking about. It has been a consistent theme throughout the season from KK. Not sure I can remember where KK was nearly as critical publically of Dowdell, Santos, White, Johnson, Petty, Thompson, or Bryant's play. Even the fans near the bench as posted above recognize the disparate treatment of the freshmen by KK during the games.

Concerning the point guard play, it really isn't Petty and Santos' fault. KK puts them in that position. Not sure if Santos has ever played point guard before. He certainly doesn't look comfortable out there with the ball. Petty on the other hand is a string of turnovers, a string of good plays, and then loses his mind in the last 5-6 minutes of nearly every game (except the Cable Car). It is extremely difficult to win at this level with that type of volatility. In the last 5-6 minutes of nearly every game watch the ball movement on offense stop, watch the penetration into a double team, watch the forced shot that rarely goes in, and of course don't forget the turnovers. Petty would be most effective if he played no more than 20 minutes per game in stints no longer than five minutes. Otherwise the wheels will inevitably come off. If Santos was an adequate backup point guard he should be playing the other minutes. KK hasn't shown that he has that much confidence in Santos for that kind of playing time at point guard.

I predicted an 0-4 start in league and unfortunately we are half way there. A win against the Zags would turn things around.

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01/14/09 10:32:27

Personally, I find Keating's comments (namely: "disgusting", "awful" and "putrid") to be over the top and inappropriate.

I didn't notice a lack of effort on our part, except for one loose ball we should have gotten on our defensive end in the first half after which he benched Traz for Thompson and yelled "Dive on the floor" to Traz as he came out. But overall I thought our effort looked fine.

Regardless, his comments were too much.

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01/15/09 08:57:29

Don't worry. KK's still learning, too. Sadly, I'm sure he'll soon be spouting the more bland, vanilla meaningless comments we're all used to from coaches.

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