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        <![CDATA[ from the Stevens Point (Wis) Journal :


  
  
  By Adam Thompson • Sheboygan Press staff • September 1, 2008
  
  
  Zimmermann has enrolled at Foothill Community College in Los Altos Hills, Calif. Just like when he was at Oostburg, he receives letters and calls from
  prospective universities inquiring about his interest and availability for the 2008-09 season. Two schools have shown great interest, but there&#39;s a snag
  regarding the one Zimmermann really wants to attend.

  Stanford... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: College basketball: Oostburg grad leaves Santa Clara  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ No, I am not living behind the Hut anymore. I moved out of there several years ago as I had a falling out with the owner. Most recently I was living in the
trees outside Memorial Stadium in Berkeley, but we all know what happened there. Now, I am homeless. I think I will head back to SCU and see if there are any
good spots to camp out. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I thought this thread had run its course, as talking with Rawhide is like talking with a youthful brick wall. 
However when an authority at moving on, like Dogman, chimes in perhaps I should listen.  Out of curiosity Dogman, are you still living in a tent behind The Hut
hoping someone will buy your manuscript and make it a play on Broadway?
<br>
<br>
Incidentally, I went and checked my posts all the way back to April and I don&#39;t think I... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: College basketball: Oostburg grad leaves Santa Clara  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Meh, I think 85 brings a lot to the board. I for one am thankful for his overall contributions, despite my general disagreement with his views on KK and the
way the program is heading. Call me optimistic.
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			<description><![CDATA[ Rawhide is spot on here.  &#39;85, obviously, you have some serious issues to deal with and need to try and get out of the professional victim mode. Either, go
to the Stanford board as Rawhide suggests, or seek some counseling or therapy. I am sure the SCU Alumuni office could give you some referrals. I wish you luck,
but I for one am tired of your Davey got screwed nonsense. It was time for you to move on from this along time ago. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: College basketball: Oostburg grad leaves Santa Clara  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Well here&#39;s a first 85 actually liked the last 15 years of mediocrity. Let me guess you also like handing out participation ribbons instead of the
champions trophy. No need for a response as everyone knows what&#39;s coming &quot;um yeah... Well Davey got screwed and KK is unethical&quot; ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ there may be / is a LITTLE more to this story ... and we should know a bit more soon ... not up on ALL the NCAA regs but there seems to be a difference between
being released from scholarship and &quot;transferring&quot; vs. leaving school and &quot;transferring&quot;
<br>
<br>
and my understanding is that once he enrolls somewhere else (he has at Foothill it seems) he can then &quot;transfer&quot; anywhere ... don&#39;t quote me yet
... will look to get some clarification ...
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<br>
in... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">NewAge,
<br>
Why does the fact that he is better than the other 3 make it make sense?  If the kid is transferring, he&#39;s transferring.  So why do we put a conditional
release on him?  Is it to teach him a lesson or to screw him because he wants to leave?
<br>
<br>
Rawhide,
<br>
<br>
Blah, Blah, Blah.....everyone else does it....Blah, Blah, Blah.......BCS schools do it.......Blah, Blah, Blah......a team in our league does it.<span... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">TheWeave wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Anybody want to try for a glass-half-full spin on this? (in addition to Rahon props by K2fan). Looks like a rebuiling year of monumental proportions.
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			<description><![CDATA[ 85
<br>
<br>
When someone says that they want SCU to be better than other schools one usually wants more wins and less losses, you on other hand want Santa Clara to win a
moral contest. You must be one hell of a 7 year old girls soccer coach, everyone is having fun picking daisys, losing by 5, and your biggest worry is who will
bring the orange slices at halftime next week. Wake up its not 85 anymore heck it is not even 95 anymore; we have big time colleges (read BCS schools) and heck
even... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>duplicate</p>
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<br>
<em><font color="#990000">thanks R-Hide ... it actually is the board&#39;s funny way of putting the 1st post in a Thread on the top of each page ... so the
&quot;above&quot; is not actually a duplicate ... but it confused me for a time too ... B-66
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edited by Bronco66 to explain the &quot;duplicate&quot;</font></em> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ SCU 85... Conditional release on a 7ft-ish player with upside makes sense.... I don&#39;t think you will be seeing Tidemann, Gunner, or Latimer playing DI ball
anywhere anytime soon. Hence, no need to be conditional about anything. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>By my count, there are FIVE returning players: 
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rawhide,
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<br>
Trust me, I feel your pain, I&#39;m equally sick of reading your garbage.  The difference between you and I is that you think anything is okay as long as other
schools are doing it.  I, on the other hand, have always wanted SCU to be better than other schools.  
<br>
<br>
How come SCU put a &quot;Conditional Release&quot; on Zimmerman but not on Tiedeman, Gunderson and Latimer?  Is it because those 3 were told they had to... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t think it is safe to jump to conclusion regarding how this whole Zimmerman thing came about.  Let&#39;s wait for the true story to come out (or
maybe S***ford won&#39;t let it be known), but until then we cannot assume that it was a Keating/Coonan wrong doing.  Just what I think . . . and what is true
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>I guess he&#39;ll get some solid playing time in JC ball, and perhaps end up at Stanford the following season.  I&#39;m sure by now many of the D1 rosters
are &quot;set&quot;.  This young man obviously has some skill if he&#39;s being considered Pac 10 material.
<br>
<br>
Hope Rahon does pan out. Looks like he is/was a 2 star recruit and was offered by a few fellow WCC schools and Utah.  Perhaps there&#39;s upside and room for
growth.  I would be surprised if he was the second best on the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Rawhide,
<br>
<br>
I agree with you -- there are plenty of other D1 schools he can attend.
<br>
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B
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			<description><![CDATA[ 85- Why should we give him a release to Stanford (can we not go a month without you babbiling some thing about how bad of a human Keating is and how Davey is
the best thing since sliced bread), you commit to a school and not a coach. From the tone of this article I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if ASU and Stanford were
recuriting him before we even gave him his release, which is common. This is a common thing for schools to give a conditional release it&#39;s not like Conan
and Keating are the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Wouldn&#39;t release him to sign with Stanford?  Sounds like another typical move on the part of
Coonan/Keating.  
<br>
<br>
In the words of Ron Burgandy:  &quot;Stay Classy Santa Clara&quot;</p> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ james rahon will start and be the 2nd best player on the team behind bryant. SCU fans you have no idea what we have in Rahon you should get excited. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I think Zimmerman could have been a major contributor if he was given the time. Depth up front is going to be an issue this year. D White is the only natural 3
on the roster and he isn&#39;t available &#39;til December. Dowdell  is smart &amp; can play small forward but his outside shot and hip surgery could be
concerns. Thompson, Dowdell and Traz can play the 4, with the beeg guy at 5 [with Thompson and Traz ?as backups]. Foul trouble and injuries could create some
real challenges.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080901/SHE0201/809010578">from the Stevens Point (Wis) Journal</a> :

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  By Adam Thompson • Sheboygan Press staff • September 1, 2008
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  Zimmermann has enrolled at Foothill Community College in Los Altos Hills, Calif. Just like when he was at Oostburg, he receives... ]]></description>

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